Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

02/14/2008 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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+ SCR 15 AMEND UNIFORM RULES: STANDING COMMITTEES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSCR 15(SED) Out of Committee
+= SB 215 REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVER'S LICENSE/I.D. TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 215 Out of Committee
*+ SB 202 PROHIBIT STATE SPENDING FOR REAL ID ACT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 101 UNIFORM TRAFFIC LAWS
Moved SCS CSHB 101(STA) Out of Committee
        SCR 15-AMEND UNIFORM RULES: STANDING COMMITTEES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced the consideration of SCR 15.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN, Staff  to Senator  Gary Stevens,  said SCR  15 comes                                                               
from the Joint Legislative Education  Task Force as its first and                                                               
immediate recommendation  for this session, and  it establishes a                                                               
standing committee  on education. It  also calls for  a recurring                                                               
review of  the funding formula,  regular updates of  the district                                                               
cost  factors,  review  of  programs   and  policies  within  the                                                               
Department  of Education  and Early  Development,  and review  of                                                               
policies  of  the  University  of  Alaska.  Considering  Alaska's                                                               
constitutional obligation,  many feel that Alaska  should have an                                                               
educational  standing  committee. Alaska  is  one  of only  three                                                               
states that do not have one.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:10:37 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS said  it became clear to him when  he came to the                                                               
legislature that  it would  be reasonable  to have  this standing                                                               
committee.  Chair  Davis of  the  Health,  Education, and  Social                                                               
Services  (HESS) Committee  is  very  supportive. That  committee                                                               
wanted to  keep education in the  past, but the current  chair is                                                               
supportive. It seems that the  university has mainly responded to                                                               
the Finance Committee,  which is valid because  of fiscal issues,                                                               
but the university has gotten short shrift on its programs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:10 AM                                                                                                                    
CARL  ROSE,  Executive  Director, Association  of  Alaska  School                                                               
Boards, said he served on the  task force and has never seen such                                                               
a broad  number of issues with  consensus. "It is all  before you                                                               
now."  Education is  quite complicated,  and in  the course  of a                                                               
legislative  session  people will  have  only  a few  minutes  to                                                               
testify. It is difficult to  get congruence about many aspects of                                                               
K-12 education.  Alaska spends $1  billion every year on  it, and                                                               
there are  a number of  issues. The task force  identified things                                                               
that could  be worked on,  and some things were  more complicated                                                               
and needed  more time. He  said people wanted  to look at  the 20                                                               
percent block  grant, which is  the amount that goes  to special,                                                               
vocational, and  bilingual education. How that  is distributed is                                                               
difficult to deal with in a committee. He continued:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     What it  requires is some  time, as well as  issues of,                                                                    
     maybe,   intervention   on   the   no-child-left-behind                                                                    
     reconstitution of  governance and schools. You  look at                                                                    
     the  mandated   nature  of  legislation  that   may  be                                                                    
     regulations  that we  face: the  local, the  state, and                                                                    
     the  federal role  in education  - these  things become                                                                    
     very, very complicated.  It's our hope, and  it was the                                                                    
     hope  of the  task  force,  that we  would  be able  to                                                                    
     create a  standing committee who could  deal with these                                                                    
     issues  and  give  it  the   due  diligence  that  they                                                                    
     require. …  This is an  effort to  try to give  you the                                                                    
     time you need to make  better decisions, and I hope you                                                                    
     look favorably on this piece of legislation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:15:18 AM                                                                                                                    
RICHARD  LUTHER, Legislative  Liaison,  Department of  Education,                                                               
said the administration  supports SCR 15. There  are major issues                                                               
the  task force  didn't have  time to  deal with.  Some of  these                                                               
unresolved  issues include  charter  and correspondence  schools,                                                               
block grants,  vocational and technical programs,  required local                                                               
effort, and pre-K education. These  are major issues that require                                                               
a lot of time, and a special committee will allow that.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:16:40 AM                                                                                                                    
JOHN ALCANTRA,  Director, Government Relations,  NEA-Alaska, said                                                               
he agrees with  previous comments. He said  Senator Stevens spent                                                               
8 to  10 full  days last summer  on the task  force. "It  was the                                                               
first time that  education had ample time to go  through issues …                                                               
and all  of them were  not addressed."  The Senate has  a special                                                               
committee on education  that has been shoehorned  into a one-hour                                                               
timeframe  with   members  that  have   to  head  off   to  other                                                               
committees. Making  education a standing committee  and elevating                                                               
the  K-12  and university  budgets  "will  certainly help."  NEA-                                                               
Alaska members just had their  52nd annual delegate assembly, and                                                               
they have been trying to see this happen for years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:18:11 AM                                                                                                                    
KIKI  ABRAHAMSON,   Teacher,  Homer,  Fireweed   Academy  Charter                                                               
School, said  her school  has existed  for 11  years, and  it has                                                               
been doing  a great  job with an  innovative curriculum.  She has                                                               
six  of her  students  with  her, and  has  brought  them to  the                                                               
hearings  at the  Legislative Information  Office in  Homer. They                                                               
all support  SCR 15. All  educators and members in  the community                                                               
are in favor of having a separate education committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said  she is glad students are  involved. She asked                                                               
if the HESS committee needs its name changed in SCR 15.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  said line  12 of  page 1  changes the  title and                                                               
duties of that committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:55 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  said he  is confused about  the structure  of SCR
15. It appears to be making two amendments in the same section.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  said an amendment  effectively sunsets  the committee                                                               
in 2013.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH  surmised  that   Section  1  would  take  effect                                                               
immediately,  and  Section  2  would take  effect  on  the  first                                                               
                            th                                                                                                  
regular  session of  the  28   legislature. "So,  it sunsets  the                                                               
education committee."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  said  that  was  the  desire  of  the  previous                                                               
committee. He  wasn't excited  about that, but  he now  thinks it                                                               
may make sense to relook at it.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BUNDE  moved  to  adopt,  as  a  working  document,  the                                                               
committee  substitute  (CS)  for  SCR  15,  labeled  25-LS1348\C.                                                               
Hearing no objection, Version C was before the committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:23:32 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GREEN said she is the  only person in Alaska that opposes                                                               
this, and she  only opposes it because it  causes difficulties in                                                               
the  Senate  -  not  so  much  for  the  House.  The  Senate  has                                                               
difficulty getting  members into standing committees  who are not                                                               
conflicted. The special committee can  meet every day if it needs                                                               
to. "We can more clearly  outline with our special committee that                                                               
all  legislation  will  be  forwarded   to  it  and  it  will  be                                                               
responsible for all education issues."  Knowing the difficulty of                                                               
scheduling and  filling all of  the committees,  another standing                                                               
committee will be next to impossible, she explained.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH said  that is  a good  point because  everyone is                                                               
stressed  by the  90-day session.  He hopes  that this  committee                                                               
will not result in extra  bill referrals. He suggested not simply                                                               
adding an  education committee referral without  dropping it from                                                               
other committees.  There should be  the same amount  of committee                                                               
work but  just redistributed.  "If we  do it  right we  should be                                                               
creating some time from a  reduced workload in other committees."                                                               
It should compartmentalize the work.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:25:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE said  the Senate is "a lot harder"  than the House.                                                               
"You really  are stretched with  20 members." She hopes  that the                                                               
issues of health  and social services attract  enough people, and                                                               
that members are  not just interested in  education. Education is                                                               
a popular issue. Health and  social services can be tough because                                                               
there  is never  enough money  to go  around and  the issues  are                                                               
difficult. The sunset provision may address that.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   FRENCH  moved   CSSCR  15(SED)   from  committee   with                                                               
individual recommendations  and attached fiscal  note(s). Hearing                                                               
no objections, it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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